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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://exitcavehere.com/2009/05/people-with-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-2116</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another incident: http://freekeene.com/2010/01/17/big-mike-arrested-raw-video/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another incident: <a href="http://freekeene.com/2010/01/17/big-mike-arrested-raw-video/" rel="nofollow">http://freekeene.com/2010/01/17/big-mike-arrested-raw-video/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://exitcavehere.com/2009/05/people-with-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-1271</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a blog post that covers two more incidents of taser &quot;pain compliance&quot; by police officers.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/027060.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a blog post that covers two more incidents of taser &#8220;pain compliance&#8221; by police officers.<br />
<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/027060.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/027060.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://exitcavehere.com/2009/05/people-with-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 18:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ridiculous.  Clearly an abuse of power.  Another outrageous example of how the government/police is a tool of big business.  
If they don&#039;t want people to see the inside of their machine,  they should design it so that people can&#039;t see the inside when they are inserting money, or put a screen around it when servicing it.  Otherwise it&#039;s fair game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridiculous.  Clearly an abuse of power.  Another outrageous example of how the government/police is a tool of big business.<br />
If they don&#8217;t want people to see the inside of their machine,  they should design it so that people can&#8217;t see the inside when they are inserting money, or put a screen around it when servicing it.  Otherwise it&#8217;s fair game.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://exitcavehere.com/2009/05/people-with-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, What a timely opportunity. I understand why you didn&#039;t, but boy I wish you would have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, What a timely opportunity. I understand why you didn&#8217;t, but boy I wish you would have.</p>
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		<title>By: Dougc</title>
		<link>http://exitcavehere.com/2009/05/people-with-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-1249</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed Stori.

And speaking of stories, here&#039;s one that happened to me this morning.  As I was going to work I stopped by my bank in Orem, UT.  I was going to pull up to the ATM, but a Loomis truck beat me to it.  Hey!  I thought... I&#039;ll bet that guy is about to open up the ATM to service it.  Then I thought, &quot;Hm.. and I happen to have my digital camera with me...&quot;

As I said earlier, I don&#039;t think I have the courage for the level of civil disobedience that Shane was willing to gamble with.  It turns out that it&#039;s true.  I did not go over and try to take pictures of the ATM while it was open, mostly because I&#039;m a chicken, and partly because the only reason I would be doing it would be to get the reaction from the Loomis employee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Stori.</p>
<p>And speaking of stories, here&#8217;s one that happened to me this morning.  As I was going to work I stopped by my bank in Orem, UT.  I was going to pull up to the ATM, but a Loomis truck beat me to it.  Hey!  I thought&#8230; I&#8217;ll bet that guy is about to open up the ATM to service it.  Then I thought, &#8220;Hm.. and I happen to have my digital camera with me&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>As I said earlier, I don&#8217;t think I have the courage for the level of civil disobedience that Shane was willing to gamble with.  It turns out that it&#8217;s true.  I did not go over and try to take pictures of the ATM while it was open, mostly because I&#8217;m a chicken, and partly because the only reason I would be doing it would be to get the reaction from the Loomis employee.</p>
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		<title>By: REI ATM / Loomis / Seattle Police Incident: The Cliff Notes &#171; I Am Shane Becker</title>
		<link>http://exitcavehere.com/2009/05/people-with-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-1248</link>
		<dc:creator>REI ATM / Loomis / Seattle Police Incident: The Cliff Notes &#171; I Am Shane Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 06:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (mp3). It&#8217;s just the actual show parts, no news or commercials. It was edited down by Matt Misbach. (Thanks, Matt). I&#8217;m pretty happy with how the show turned [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (mp3). It&#8217;s just the actual show parts, no news or commercials. It was edited down by Matt Misbach. (Thanks, Matt). I&#8217;m pretty happy with how the show turned [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Stori</title>
		<link>http://exitcavehere.com/2009/05/people-with-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-1246</link>
		<dc:creator>Stori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 03:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doug,  I was using your comments to make a point about our society in general.  I&#039;ve seen one too many videos of men with badges arresting and tasing people for the &quot;crime&quot; of questioning the officer.   Of course it is always best to hear all sides of a situation, but when one side is the modern police state I guess I wouldn&#039;t trust their version anyway.  There&#039;s just something about all that power concentrated in a crew cut with jack boots that distorts the sense of right and wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doug,  I was using your comments to make a point about our society in general.  I&#8217;ve seen one too many videos of men with badges arresting and tasing people for the &#8220;crime&#8221; of questioning the officer.   Of course it is always best to hear all sides of a situation, but when one side is the modern police state I guess I wouldn&#8217;t trust their version anyway.  There&#8217;s just something about all that power concentrated in a crew cut with jack boots that distorts the sense of right and wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulG</title>
		<link>http://exitcavehere.com/2009/05/people-with-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all of the above.  Why didn&#039;t the Loomis Guards get the names and ID from all of the other people in the store that could have seen the interior of the machine?  What about the security camera that points to that corner of the store?  It might have captured an image of the inside of the ATM machine.  They should get the names and ID of anyone with access to the security cameras.  Its just ridiculous.  Clearly abuse of power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all of the above.  Why didn&#8217;t the Loomis Guards get the names and ID from all of the other people in the store that could have seen the interior of the machine?  What about the security camera that points to that corner of the store?  It might have captured an image of the inside of the ATM machine.  They should get the names and ID of anyone with access to the security cameras.  Its just ridiculous.  Clearly abuse of power.</p>
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		<title>By: Dougc</title>
		<link>http://exitcavehere.com/2009/05/people-with-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-1242</link>
		<dc:creator>Dougc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stori,  I agree with your comments, and you make some plain statements that are true.  I don&#039;t believe that I implied that snarky comments or facial expressions warrant the handcuffs.  I did indicate that knowing only one side of the story may not be an accurate version of the whole story.

But, to the point, it seems clear that Shane was unjustly mistreated.  I don&#039;t know if I would have the courage of civil disobedience to push it to the point that he did.  I hope that I would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stori,  I agree with your comments, and you make some plain statements that are true.  I don&#8217;t believe that I implied that snarky comments or facial expressions warrant the handcuffs.  I did indicate that knowing only one side of the story may not be an accurate version of the whole story.</p>
<p>But, to the point, it seems clear that Shane was unjustly mistreated.  I don&#8217;t know if I would have the courage of civil disobedience to push it to the point that he did.  I hope that I would.</p>
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		<title>By: What happened at REI. An Update. &#171; I Am Shane Becker</title>
		<link>http://exitcavehere.com/2009/05/people-with-authority/comment-page-1/#comment-1241</link>
		<dc:creator>What happened at REI. An Update. &#171; I Am Shane Becker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (mp3). It&#8217;s just the actual show parts, no news or commercials. It was edited down by Matt Misbach. (Thanks, Matt). I&#8217;m pretty happy with how the show turned [...]</description>
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